Kyle and I recently joined Meher Roy and Brian Crain on the Epicenter podcast. It’s one of our favorite crypto podcasts. Here’s the link.

We had a wide ranging conversation on topics including:

• The origin story of Multicoin Capital
• Money as an emergent phenomenon
• A hypothesis that the most used smart contract platform will produce the winning store of value
• Where Kyle and I disagree on Bitcoin
• Why money is best thought of as an adjective not a noun
• Differentiating between work tokens, payment tokens, and burn-and-mint tokens
• Why work tokens capture more value than payment tokens
• Competitive dynamics between open source protocols

Also, the Epicenter design team is amazing! Their polygon art is one-of-a-kind: